Interview by Jennifer Harvey Sallin
A LITTLE BACKGROUND
I met Georges in Switzerland where we were both living as expats. He contacted me for coaching, and from that first meeting, I knew we were developing something special. Georges has a vast mind, and a mechanical mind – he knows how to understand the huge picture and yet how all the parts work together. When he shifted his professional role to coaching and hypnosis, I knew I wanted to be one of his first hypnosis clients! And my experience in a session with him was incredibly insightful, revealing things about my life that I guess somewhere in me, I already knew, but had blocks to seeing on my own. That session unlocked a whole new phase of my life, knowing how to move forward in an area of my life where I had been stuck for so many years.
When I was starting InterGifted, Georges was there to encourage me every step of the way. I knew from the beginning that I wanted him on our team of coaches: he knows what it’s like to be managing a gifted mind and needing to understand its complexities, and he has the “mechanical” tools to make understanding that complexity infinitely less daunting. Read our interview below to discover more about Georges’ and how hypnosis can work for gifted people in the process of self-discovery!
J: Briefly tell us a little bit about yourself, where you live, what you do, and what your role is in InterGifted.
G: I currently live in San Diego, CA. I’ve lived here since 1997 except from 2011 to 2015 when I lived in Switzerland. I was born in New York City, but I was raised in France and spent most of my adult life in the US. I love soccer, ethnic food, cultural diversity and music.
I consider myself a coach who uses hypnosis. I don’t identify with the word therapist because I believe that my clients are their own therapists. I just guide them in helping themselves through hypnosis. I have trained as an Ericksonian and NLP hypnotherapist and I am also a QHHT Practitioner which stands for Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique. QHHT was developed by Dolores Cannon.
So that is what I do for IG, I coach individuals through hypnosis. I can work in person or remotely. QHHT however has to be performed in person. There is a worldwide network of QHHT practitioners so I can certainly guide anyone into finding a practitioner near where they live.
J: How did you discover your giftedness? And what has been your experience in learning about yourself as a gifted person, and learning to channel all your intensity in healthy ways?
G: I first discovered the word and concept on Jen’s www.rediscovering-yourself.com website by reading about Dabrowski. I thought it was an interesting topic, but I didn’t identify with giftedness at first. I still don’t like to focus on the word itself, but from reading about it, thinking back on childhood memories, and being observant of my internal states, actions and inactions, I cannot deny that I fit certain traits.
As a child around 5 years old I would spend hours listening to the same records. Joe Dassin was one of my favorites. Later on it was not unusual for me to play back the same song over and over. While growing up I often heard: “you think too much” or “you are too sensitive”. I always felt those were strengths and that conviction has helped me personally. But the immediate family circle seemed to think otherwise. I was very chatty, physically active and I used to love to impersonate people and animals. I became more introverted and observant in a different way during adolescence.
So learning about giftedness has helped me reinforce my belief that being over-analytical and over-sensitive are strengths. This has given me more confidence in the process. So now I channel those intensities through my work as a youth soccer coach, a personal development coach with hypnosis, a QHHT practitioner, and I am still exploring other options.
I used to work in IT as a business analyst developer. That function suited me well to analyze business processes and technical issues. My sensitive side helped me tremendously in developing working relationships with users at various levels and functions. So to me the transition to coaching and hypnosis seemed very natural. It is a more personal and meaningful approach to what I naturally do.
J: Tell us more about your work as a coach and hypnotist.
G: For coaching with hypnosis I have adopted the pre-requisite of a QHHT session, which is that prior to meeting, clients must write an exhaustive list of important questions they want answers to. This process is therapeutic in itself and is a great exercise for anyone.
The day of the meeting the client decides which question, or theme of questions, is most important at the moment. Then we explore the answers both consciously and in light states of hypnosis using a variety of techniques. The session typically ends with a deeper hypnosis exercise similar to a guided meditation. We may or may not be talking while under hypnosis, it depends on clients’ preferences.
These coaching hypnosis sessions last around 90 minutes; sometimes shorter and sometimes longer, it depends. A simple breakthrough in a single session is sometimes enough to get the change momentum going. So typically I see clients as they feel the need for it.
J: Tell us more about QHHT and how it is a useful practice for gifted people.
G: Dolores Cannon pioneered this technique and I have no doubt that she was gifted. She only started to teach this technique in 2002, but her work really started in the late 60’s when she discovered past life regression.
As I mentioned earlier, the pre-requisite to a QHHT session is an exhaustive list of questions that clients write on their own prior to the day of the session. Some people work on their questions for months, weeks, or days in advance. Everyone is different, but this list of questions is essential to the session. I usually tell people to brainstorm the questions they have. Once they run out of questions, I tell them to categorize them into themes and refine them as they see fit. The themes typically revolve around: health, career, life purpose, events, personal interests, curiosity, relationships of all sorts such as family, friendships, business, soul mates etc.
So during the first part of a session, clients tell their personal life story which led them to seek this session. This can take about a couple of hours depending on how talkative some clients are, or depending on the events in their lives. We also review the questions and add some more if needed.
The second part of a session is the hypnosis which itself is divided into two parts. The first one, Dolores referred to it as past-lives. But I call it visions because sometimes people will stay in the current life or even go into the future. Typically it is a different life then the one they are currently living. A man may experience the life of a woman and vice-versa. Some people experience a non-human life form. Anything can happen during those visions and it is unpredictable, that is why we only practice QHHT in person.
The second part of the hypnosis is about connecting the client to his or her higher self. Dolores called it the subconscious, but it is not the same subconscious as in psychology. She defined it as an ever-present, ever-loving, all-knowing, and all-powerful extension of our selves. Some people call it the universal consciousness or the over soul, but it actually isn’t important what you call it as long as you realize that it is the bigger part of you that is connected to everything.
People experience their higher self in different ways as well. So again it is impossible to predict how one will experience it. Some people literally channel their higher selves and don’t remember most of the session. Others hear a voice and they repeat the words. Some people sense a knowing. Others see more visions. Others feel such a lucid state that they think the answers are not coming through or they are making them up. However, over time they realize the appropriateness of their experience.
I ask clients to record the hypnosis part on their mobile phones. I record it as well on a digital recorder as a backup measure. People can listen to their recording to analyze the content, to re-experience the session itself, or to have another session by themselves as a guided meditation. Typically, just like watching a movie or reading a book again years later, people notice things they hadn’t before. Some people listen to their recording weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly… Whatever they feel is right for them, but recordings should be listened to.
I think QHHT is very well suited for gifted individuals because it caters to our intensity, curiosity, and life purpose all in one single session. So anyone who has a ton of questions can get to write them all down and get them answered. Here is what I noticed though most often with clients that come with pages of questions: only three answers might answer most of them. That typically helps the person get the even bigger picture. I will add that something worth asking oneself before such a session is: what will you do with your answers?
J: Who are your favorite clients to work with? And how do you see their lives change via your work together?
G: I love every single one of them. I get to see how unique and similar we all are and that is beautiful.
Most QHHT clients and practitioners are fond of sessions where the client doesn’t remember what happened. I can talk to a client under hypnosis for two and half hours, but when the client only remembers 20 minutes, that is intense.
However, clients who remain aware can have a very unique and powerful experience as well. They get the benefit of that subtle awareness of their own connection. This enables them to recognize it and recall it later on when needed.
In regards to life changes clients go through, it seems that whether it’s coaching with hypnosis or QHHT, there are a couple of common recurring themes that people get out of this work; and that often revolves around finding a sense of peace and freedom.
J: If you could give one piece of advice to other gifted adults, or even gifted youth, knowing what you know after your years of personal work on giftedness and self-development, what would it be?
G: The path to this discovery is unique to each of us so there is no cookie cutter advice. That being said, if the topic of giftedness has popped up into your life, chances are the process of discovery has already started. Just let your curiosity take you where it feels right for you and explore it in your own way at your own pace.
The word isn’t important, but your unique giftedness is. Also know that there is a beautiful counterpart to the struggles we experience as gifted individuals, and they go hand in hand. A simple shift in a belief can sometimes be the breach in the dam that sets you free.
Explore your beliefs that trigger your thoughts, feelings, emotions and actions. Know that you are the master of those. Play with your thoughts and actions in different ways while remaining true and good to the loving essence of you.
J: Further resources, recommended reading?
InterGifted, of course. Thank you Jen and the rest of the team behind it to make this happen. It is a gift.
Paula Prober’s Rainforest Mind.
Mary Elaine Jacobsen’s Liberating Everyday Genius.
Dolores Cannon’s The Three Waves of Volunteers and The New Earth; The Convoluted Universe series is great food for thought too.
Joe Dispenza’s Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself, and You Are the Placebo.
J: If listeners want to work with you in QHHT, hypnosis or coaching, what should they know and how should they best prepare?
G: I just want to point out that just like with the word giftedness, there often is a belief associated with the word hypnosis. Hypnosis is not about mind control. It is a natural state of the brain that we all go through every night to sleep and every morning to wake up. We just use those alpha and theta states to tune in to the creative side of our brain and to explore the possibilities.
This can also be accomplished just the same through meditation, while reading a book, or anything relaxing that slows down brain wave activity. This can also occur while driving when thoughts sometimes wonder. Part of the brain is focused on the task of driving, while another part drifts into thoughts.
For people interested in working with me, start working on your list of questions. Brainstorm anything you want for as long as you want on any topic you want. Sometimes people get an epiphany during that process already.
About Jennifer Harvey Sallin
Jennifer is the founder of InterGifted and is a mentor and coach for gifted people. She specializes in mentoring and coaching highly, exceptionally and profoundly gifted adults. She also provides training and mentoring for gifted coaches and writes extensively on giftedness and self-development. You can find her articles here on IG’s blog and on her own blog at Rediscovering Yourself. She is happy to consult with you or connect you to our coaches in InterGifted’s Coaching Network. Feel free to reach out!